Americans Not Widely Optimistic About Trump Presidency

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 01/11/2017 at 19:33 • Filed to: None

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According to the Wall Street Journal

Svend > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:39

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WAIT, WHAT?

Why is this the first I hear about it?

Up till now everyone has had high praise for trumpton.

facw > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:39

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Quinnipiac’s latest poll paints a similar picture: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/10/this-new-poll-has-all-kinds-of-bad-news-for-donald-trump

Unfortunately, he’s not really especially constrained by popularity right now.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > facw 01/11/2017 at 19:41

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Or anything else...

Life and Times of Magoo: The People's Champ > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:42

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Breaking News!

gmctavish needs more space > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:49

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Americans Entire World Not Widely Optimistic About Trump Presidency

theloudmouth > Svend 01/11/2017 at 19:49

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I was interested in moving to Germany last summer, I am now wildly determined.....

LongbowMkII > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:52

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But he has such a well regarded business history.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:52

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Frankly I’m shocked.

Wait....

Dash-doorhandle-6 cyl none the richer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:53

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DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 19:55

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Only in America can you be unpopular and still win an election, somehow.

mazda616 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:02

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Not wildly optimistic is a light way to put it.

Some of us are doing all we can not to be downright terrified of what this buffoon will end up doing.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:12

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His outburst at the CNN people was just rediculous, he’s just an embarrassment to Human kind, let alone Americans. I just went to India and Korea and people were saying how sorry they were! I made it clear that it was not my idea.

whoarder is tellurium > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:13

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Wait, we suddenly trust polls again?

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:17

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Also water is wet and Scoob is a poo.

Svend > mazda616 01/11/2017 at 20:17

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At present it’s not what he’s doing but not doing (ie, the U.S. diplomats abroad, etc...).

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > LongbowMkII 01/11/2017 at 20:19

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I heard he is very classy and his wife promotes eating vegetables. He paints things gold to show he is in touch with the common man.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:23

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What the fuck were Americans expecting?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:40

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Mind blown. Thought it was just me.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 20:48

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I read that earlier today. Counterpoint: How right were the polls leading up to the election? It will be interesting to see where he bottoms out.

Harry Truman was the worst, at just 22%, followed by Richard Nixon at 24%.

ttyymmnn > theloudmouth 01/11/2017 at 20:48

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My kids say that we have to move. My reply is, “Hell no. This is my country. I’m not leaving it.”

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > ttyymmnn 01/11/2017 at 20:59

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Idk how to tell off or argue with people who read rt news and accept that Putin isn’t a bad guy. I’m not ditching my country but I won’t allow an ex fsb dictator to fracture the united states.

wafflesnfalafel > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 21:09

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yeah - I was kinda thinking the GOP would be able to convince him to settle down a bit, for his own good, but clearly is not the case given that press conference. He sounds worried...

fintail > facw 01/11/2017 at 21:13

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Fake news! What is this, Nazi Germany?

philsphan09 > facw 01/11/2017 at 21:18

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Fantastic school :)

LongbowMkII > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/11/2017 at 21:37

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Hope he avoids the asparagus.

LongbowMkII > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/11/2017 at 21:39

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Greatness?

Amoore100 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 21:47

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I wonder the fuck why.

Amoore100 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 21:47

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I wonder the fuck why.

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 21:55

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So I’m not going to say I have any idea what the public thinks about Trump. 100% could like him or 100% could hate him. I don’t care.

What I do find suspect are the political motives behind those involved in polling and reporting, and that people are so willing to ignore facts and collusion if it fits with what they want to believe.

Case and point, the #FakeNews!!111!11! dumped into the world by the likes of Buzzfeed and CNN today because they liked that 4chan’s fan fiction made Trump look bad.

And today, as that story ruins the credibility of the most anti-Trump networks, you post an article from almost a month ago in a strange google pdf and say the Wallstreet Journal has declared that Trump isn’t that popular. In reality, the article is merely reporting that CBS’s polling found Trump to have a modest popularity rating. The same CBS polling that said Hillary would win by 9+ percent. The same CBS that was found to be colluding with the DNC on polling talking points. Are we supposed to just forget all of that now that Trump is president and trust them to tell us what most Americans think?

So yeah, not sure I have a point other than...

Also, a nice Nascar Tucker 48 for everyone’s time.

fhrblig > LongbowMkII 01/11/2017 at 21:56

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Hey, remember that one time he owned a football team, and then basically steered the league that it played in into the side of a mountain? Good times.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > whoarder is tellurium 01/11/2017 at 22:15

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Seriously. Haven’t we had enough of fake polls from the fake news people proclaiming fake claims based on their fake unbiased positions?

Not that I expect this year to be good. In fact, I expect we’re on the precipice of a 2-3 year long recession, if not worse. Not due to Trump, mind you, but due to all the QE and can kicking that has been going on since 2007, inflating bubbles that make past ones look minor... We’re in for a world of hurt when this stuff starts unwinding.

I am actually hoping that Trump decides to default on the national debt. It doubled under Obama and would be poignant. With grade F credit, the US couldn’t take out loans to do crazy shit, but without paying half the federal tax revenue out in interest, he could just hire 1 in 10 people in this country to build a wall or whatever other crazy thing he comes up with. Couldn’t be much worse than where we are now, honestly.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/11/2017 at 22:16

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Which makes me wonder how skewed and fake this poll could be, or were his opponents that shitty? I mean, it has to be one or the other.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 22:16

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I think his opponents were that shitty lol.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/11/2017 at 22:23

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But didn’t similar polling done by media outlets prior to the election find that she was beating him in every possible opinion metric? It just doesn’t all add up.

whoarder is tellurium > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 22:23

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I think that could be why Trump is in such a panic mode to get things done. We have to get things functional on multiple levels... ASAP.

I don’t think it would be wise to default... but we are in this for a long long time. The “recovery” so far has been a joke.

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 22:33

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Those polls were right. It’s just the states Hilary won, she won by a metric shit ton. The ones Trump won where by the skin of his teeth. So it really was because of the electoral college.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 22:48

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that was also before he damned the swamp

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > whoarder is tellurium 01/11/2017 at 23:04

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We haven’t really had a recovery. Obama said it was the longest one in history during his farewell speech, but it has been nothing but cooking the numbers to get the UI rates they’ve been claiming. If it was a recovery, it was the slowest one we’ve ever seen combined with the worst decline in the labor participation rate since they began collecting data on it. Under GWB it declined for the first time during an administration from 67.2% to 66% over 8 years. Under Obama is declined from 66% to 62.8%, which are levels we haven’t seen since 1977 (when most women were still homemakers)...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 23:14

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Why not all of the above?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/11/2017 at 23:16

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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 01/11/2017 at 23:18

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NPR said he went on the attack. What he really went on is the defensive. We have the greatest nation on Earth now being led by one of the most insecure people on earth.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 01/11/2017 at 23:19

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It’s from today’s Wall Street Journal.

Nice selfie, BTW...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 01/11/2017 at 23:21

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If the story came from the New York Post, or the Washington Post, or the New York Times, I wouldn’t have shared it. I bet today was the first good day HRC’s had in some time.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > LongbowMkII 01/11/2017 at 23:21

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Again.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/11/2017 at 23:21

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It is you, Sheeple.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time 01/11/2017 at 23:26

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How do you not weight your results based on the state they came from? The electoral college technically worked exactly as it was planned to work when it was created. It was designed to keep large-population states from controlling the government at the expense of other states.

Honestly, if I were to do it again, I’d take the population of each state, divide evenly, and issue electoral votes evenly to each state. That would make it a combination of the will of the populations and the states. It’s unreasonable that the president (the leader of our armed forces) would only pay attention to heavily-populated areas.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 23:28

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So you’re saying he could be more well loved than the poll claims and that his opponents were exceptionally shitty?

DC3 LS, will be perpetually replacing cars until the end of time > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 23:31

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Yeah it did work as it should. If it was by the popular vote Hilary would’ve won, but only because New York and Cali went hard for her.

Your second paragraph is pretty much how’s it’s set up. It’s based on how many representatives they have in Congress, which is based on population.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/11/2017 at 23:34

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Actually, I think that’s what you’re saying; I only proposed the boolean operator AND .

My opinion is thus: if we have a big political swing so that liberal politics are abruptly changed to conservative politics, I’m fine with that — even if I’m not in agreement -- but what bothers me is what a completely unqualified, insecure , and rude man Donald Trump is. I think the country may wind up soon pining for the Clinton era for its relative lack of scandal. Actually, why don’t you mark my words so I can say I called it.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/11/2017 at 23:42

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That WSJ article says almost exactly the same thing I read today in the NYT and WaPo. Unfortunately for Hillary, or the rest of us, this will likely go away quickly.

ETA: that dossier on BuzzFeed makes for good reading.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 01/12/2017 at 00:05

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I think folks on both sides of the aisle will soon be pining for the scandal-free Clinton days. This wasn’t even a salvo. This was just a flare.

NPR said Trump was “on the attack” during his first press conference. I say he was on the defensive. A profoundly insecure man.

I’ve been following the Sessions grilling with some interest. I think he has requited himself well, even he did not do so earlier in his career. Someone said Cory Booker began his 2020 presidential campaign today. Good on ‘im, says I.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/12/2017 at 00:30

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You mean the American people don’t have confidence in a man who has telegraphed his unpresidented level of incompetence and unique unfitness to execute the duties of the office he was elected to? Well I couldn’t possibly have guessed.

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/12/2017 at 06:40

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Oh is it????

Honestly, do you read stuff before you post it?

B/Xmrrmvr > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/12/2017 at 08:01

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Considering Montana voted Trump over Hillary 100k votes, maybe you should ask your neighbors?

DipodomysDeserti > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/12/2017 at 08:20

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He just really likes gold things. Elevators, silverware, flooring, showers...

DipodomysDeserti > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/12/2017 at 08:21

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Over 2 million more people voted for the other major candidate, so if you know how our electoral system works, it shouldn’t make you wonder anything.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/12/2017 at 08:43

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A profoundly insecure man.

So much this. And it is just that insecurity that makes him such a malleable target for Pooty-poot.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > B/Xmrrmvr 01/12/2017 at 09:26

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My informal poll revealed that most were voting against Hillary, not for Trump. A very crapy situation to be in.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito 01/12/2017 at 15:16

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My friend: I read the WSJ online daily, along with NYT. Yesterday, I found the story on WSJ, printed it to a PDF, and shared it in Oppoland. I did not notice the date. Thank you for pointing that out.